Daily Summary: 2008 Global Katoomba Meeting, June 10, 2008.

Summaries, comments, and reactions from day 2 of the 2008 Global Katoomba Meeting: Developing an Infrastructure Fund for the Planet. For day 1 summaries, see post below.

Opening Keynote
Governor Blairo Maggi (Governor, Brazilian state of Mato Grosso) – 60%+ of state is preserved, but state still gets criticized for economic activity. Have program to encourage switching cattle production (req lots land) to food production – switch 10% each year. Rural Property Licensing System - interesting eye-in-the-sky online GIS-based monitoring of preservation areas with program that recognizes & checks for land use change yearly and can send automatic fines (…like a red-light ticket system?). Can require mitigation for deforestation from cattle producers. 1st state in Brazil doing this – intend to replicate in other states. Transparency: anyone can use the system. Mentioned tracking env liabilities city by city and finding env compensation using this system.

Future of Carbon Markets Panel
Carter Bales (The Wicks Group, McKinsey & Co) – forecasting a $2-3 bill C compliance mkt (excluding the US).

William Boyd (Covington & Burling LLP) – talking about recently defeated CC/C cap policy. Big issues: jobs (economic dislocation), cost control (big disconnect betw 2 sides of the debate). If can’t get Senate to pass domestic legislation, won’t pass international treaty.

Jack Gibbs (Prince’s Rainforest Project) – C mkt won’t bring a lot of $ to forests… yet. EU is negotiating phase III of trading system – forestry is excluded. Possible that phase III’s permit auction revenue may go to internat forestry activities.

Beatrice Ahimbisibwe (Ugandan farmer) – C mkts are imp to women in dev countries. Her groups’ tree planting project (vol C mkt) brings income stream and other benefits (future harvests seen as pension fund, land has gained value, helps soil erosion on steep slopes, fruit and medicinal bark, etc.). Hope that incr supply of trees will reduce illegal logging in nearby protected area.

Charlotte Streck (Climate Focus, World Bank) – EU – not a fan of forestry involvement in C mkts.

Q & A’s
Idea of a climate trust model was discussed – similar model to AK citizens receiving dividends from oil royalties.
Q: Influence of RGGI on national/internat C mkt? A: not sure what leakage might be, but it’s a “courageous and positive experiment”
Q: Imple auction to direct revenues to poor comm?
A: Jobs issue needs to be addressed.
Q: Bundling - when you commoditize one service you run the risk of ignoring other values that an ecosystem offers. How can we scale up to include multiple values?

Biodiversity Markets Breakout Session
Yusuf Ole Petenya Shani (Shompole Community Trust, Kenya) – his community (Masai) decided to set aside part of their land as preserve, charge visitors an entry fee, and started a high-end eco-lodge [comment: I looked at their website – swanky!]. Other lodge experience in Kenya can have “20 minivans around one cheetah”, but the community is able to maintain quality wildlife habitat & experience by limiting # of visitors (& charging more). Philosophy on PES – need to be benefits for the present as well as the future, or project will not take off. Challenges: gov understanding of PES; integrating women into PES projects.

Alvaro Umana (former Minister Nat Resources & Energy, Costa Rica; now IMF) – remarked on previous quote – valuing forests for their C content is like valuing computer chips for their silicon content. 2nd generation model of PES in Costa Rica is coming w/ differential payments for higher biodiversity (also challenging to implement).

Steve Morgan (Wildlands, Inc.) – drivers for their business: Clean Water Act, Endangered Species Act. Biggest challenge: limitation of market area (to a watershed, a subpopulation of species, etc.). Their demand driver is growth and encroachment on wetlands/habitat. When regulators’ budgets are stretched thin, plans for restor/mitigation aren’t reviewed quickly.

Sachin Kapila (Shell) – switching perspective towards biodiversity as opportunity. Without clear regulation, cannot analyze opportunity.

Kerry ten Kate (Forest Trends) – explained resource markets as traditional markets (ag, forestry products, etc.) and “funky markets” (bio-prospecting, regulatory and voluntary biodiversity mkts). Total trade in funky markets – $1.5 Bill/yr (mostly in US). Business & Biodiversity Offsets Program - businesses to voluntarily achieve no net loss in biodiv (by avoiding, minimizing, mitigating). Incentive for partic: building trust, getting next license more easily, see regulation coming soon. Looking to future of biodiversity mkts… marry offsets to land use planning (the avoid part of the equation), biodiv mkt dating service to match projects to investors/those who need offsets.

Q & A’s
Q: in dev countries with resource extraction & no/v. little offsets – how get companies to offset? A: one difficulty is how to quantify the offset & locate it – Need Clear Metrics for biodiversity. A#2: “No one will write a check that you don’t have to write”. A#3: need level playing field. A#4: we need to stop this race to the bottom in developing countries.

Q re: how (Masai) community decides to set aside land; are there titles; etc. A: distrust titles (“land grab-iosis”), but community agreed to boundary – if start encroaching, go back to that agreed-upon boundary.

Q: how tease out credits of bundled services? A: we have a diversity of opp of credits to sell.

Carbon Markets Breakout Session
…coming soon.

Water Markets Breakout Session
Bettina von Hagen, VP, Ecotrust: WQT markets are unique bc they exist w/out heavy regulation - local incentives for improving WQ.

Ben Grumbles, Assistant Admin for Water, EPA: "Think globally, drink locally." Greatest concern nutrients and dead zones ($4.2 billion in grants for Miss. River basin - go get 'em!) In case you weren't sure how to describe wetlands, they are "nature's kidneys."

Marta Echavirria, Founder, Ecodecision, Ecuador: "Market" hard to convey in Latin culture but WQ is being funded by user fees, aka. "Watershed Protection User Fees", which has raised over $5mil. Working on bundling project with Forest Trends.

Mark Keiser, Sr. Scientist and Principal, Keiser & Associates: TMDL driver for WQT markets. The Miss. River basin is best chance at developing intersate market; no states in the basin have developed WQT standards. Advocate for simple rules - notes less participation in areas where rules are complex, increases transaction cost. If credit isn't credible, nobody will buy.

Richard Coombe, Regional Chief, NRCS: Catskill Plan worked because small farmers were engaged; small percent of population but own 85% of land. Eco-labeling from Catskills another way to increase profits from improved land practices.

Joe Rozza, Water Risk Mgr, Coca-Cola: "Water neutrality" - return same quantity of water as used in plants. Coca-Cola is looking at WQ in products and watersheds of customers. Interesting note - use 'risk' as means to justify environmental programs to companies, instead of financial incentives.

Will Baker, President, Chesapeake Bay Foundation: Advocates regulation and market approaches must come together. "When know what needs to be done, down to the P and N limits of subbasins; we just need the funding to do it."

Q&As:
How do address different methods and interpretations?
Ben: Flexibility with accountability; provide incentives to encourage mkt; need greater
ability to measure non pt. sources; and move states to numeric P and N goals.

There seems to be two subsets/kinds of markets, financial decision (aka. Catskill) and CSR (Coca-Cola) - how do you connect the two?
Marta: No, we need to integrate all players for markets to be successful.
Richard: They will meld together b/c water is so critical.
Hypothetical - Lake Meade is dry - Where do you start?
Ben: By 2011, most west states will experience extreme shortages. Need to advocate now: sustainable ag, Smart growth and efficiency. Wetland mitigation is an important tool.

Building Bridges Session
Public lands might serve as a future insurance mechanism for ecosystem services markets.

Senator John Kerry Keynote
Senator John Kerry (D-MA) – Inconvenient Truth part III: Return of the Politicians. A rousing speech in a room full of nodding heads (as in nodding in agreement).

An Infrastructure Fund for the Planet Panel
Moderator Alvaro Umana former Minister Nat Resources & Energy, Costa Rica; now IMF) – mentioned a new article in Science [?] proposing an atmospheric trust fund from a % of revenues from auctions of permits under a global cap & trade.

Colin le Duc (Generation Investment Management) – investment in forestry attractive (inflation hedge, tax benefits, etc.). Potential in wetland and ecosystem mitigation but has scalability issues. Mapping/monitoring services will be increasing in importance. Biomass conversion also a hot area.

Larry Linden (Linden Trust for Conservation)
…coming soon.

Larry Schweiger (National Wildlife Federation)
…coming soon.

David Brand (New Forests)
…coming soon.

John Mason (Nature Conservation Research Center, Ghana) – there’s a need to communicate with local stakeholders and recognize the unique challenges they face.

Closing Keynote
Steve McCormick (Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation, former CEO of TNC) – discussed broad eras of conservation history: preservation/protection/parks, conservation recognizing the landscape (outside park boundaries), conservation in harmony with people. Suggested new trend in conservation sparked by decision on Millenium Ecosystem Services Assessment to consider the dependence of humans on ecosystem services. Now perhaps the era is on conserving nature for services with human well-being in mind. We are at the “frontier of the imagination”.

Closing Remarks
Michael Jenkins (Forest Trends) and Cristian Samper (Smithsonian Institute) – some themes revisited during the conference: monitoring, baselines & data. Take-home: stories about env markets contributing to livelihoods in developing countries should motivate us.